And all the boards did shrink;
Rumor rumor, every where,
Nor any fact to think?
(with apologies to Samuel Taylor Coleridge, RIP)
Here are some of the statements and claims, bulleted.
- The mission president and GA wish to remain unnamed/anonymous
- The GA went to MormonThink.com regularly and there found a link to Palmer’s book.
- The GA and his wife read Grant’s Insider and determined neither the church nor its foundational claims are true.
- The GA gave the book to the mission president, who is also a closet doubter.
- The GA and MP have met with Palmer three times since October 23 (a month after Mormonthink was bantered in national media).
- They are now meeting monthly (hopefully watching their collective asses now that LDS-COB know Grant is meeting these unnamed high level dissenters).
- None of the apostles have ever admitted directly to him that they did not believe.
- The apostles are entirely enmeshed in every detail of their lives in the church.
- The anonymous blog is named “journey of loyal dissent” (apparently posted by Christopher Ralph, UK member/dissenter).
- The GA and mission president both attend church each Sunday and feel hypocritical and trapped.
- The GA had one-on-one conversations with apostles sometime in the past.
- The primary consideration of election of a new apostle is being “church broken” and fully loyal to the other apostles.
- The six senior apostles mentor the junior six who are told to obey, listen and learn.
- The six senior apostles run the show in the quorum.
- The Q12 is quite isolated from the several Q70s, which used to enjoy more contact with apostles when there was only one Q70.
- The first presidency was involved in the decision of Grant Palmer’s disciplinary court.
- Each new member of the Quorum of the 12 apostles receives one-million dollars for financial obligations.
- The million dollars is called a “gift”.
- It takes two or three years for a new apostle to learn the church is in fact false.
- D. F. Uchtdorf took longer because of his non-Utah heritage.
- The GA has learned indirectly by interaction with apostles that eventually they all learn the church is not true.
- Apostles talk amongst themselves about how the church is false. (It’s not clear how this could be known)
- The apostles obedience/loyalty to each other are part of the reasons keeping them from blowing the whistle on the church.
- Apostles justify staying the course because people need the church. (It’s not clear how this could be known)
- Apostles do not like to discuss truth issues with Q70s members.
- The apostles would rather die defending the church than admit it is false.
- The church is a weakened dam about to burst with apostates.
My thoughts... How likely is it that all the apostles are absolute doubters? Each of them individually may fall in the spectrum of deluded conned man or full-out evil conman. But to believe that they are all deluded says that every last one of them is ridiculously idiotic about the reality they are supposedly defending. Of course, on the flip-side, one can argue, if they're all evil liars, that's a difficult-to-believe conspiracy. Many will argue that such a conspiracy is unlikely to keep a lid on. Conspiracy is a bad word. This is a corporation with corporate trade secrets. These kind of secrets are kept all the time at the top of most large, diverse companies, with the knowledge compartmentalized with those having a need to know. Even CEOs do not know all the trade secrets of the company because such details are far beyond a single human capacity to know. The kind of deals and financial arrangements made in any corporation is held tight. Secrecy in other (government) organizations is obviously not compromised as well.
But is this a criminal conspiracy? Not to the Q12/first presidency.
First of all, these men do not actually control the finances of the church. They're at its mercy. Much of their adult lives have been spun up and dedicated into one system. They are running the front-face of a massive corporation. The machinery is beyond them. But the rock-stardom it gives them reaches far into their extended family. They're all surfing a wave created by doctrinal policy sausage grinders they couldn't themselves stomach if they knew it all.
They have a lot of perks. They have fans. They have trips. They have ranches, hunting preserves, malls, cultural centers and throngs to enjoy. They have books ghost written and command austere obedience on demand. Not only do they already have many more book deals with their own bookstore (deseret book), they have families with prestige in the state of UT that brings about business opportunities for their children and many of their grandchildren.
Not one of them is actually that talented at this late point in life in scriptural scholarship or academic studies. While they may not need it to write a church dismantling tome, they will need the credibility when one of them alone stands, as an old (potentially senile) man, against a unanimous quorum. Without significant credibility, charges of senility will absolutely ring true for 99% of members.
A single book deal exposing it will fall flat. The family of that man will be utterly disgraced. The business they built and reputation they have will be dismantled. Not the church.
Better to stay the course and slowly reform it without upsetting the family apple cart.
The church has become stagnate and decorated like described in another stanza of Coleridge's poem:
Day after day, day after day,
We stuck, nor breath nor motion;
As idle as a painted ship,
Upon a painted ocean.
The anonymous GA is leading people to truth in a frozen land of hidden financed schemes. Will the church leaders pursue the dissenting, closeted GA? Are they going to kill the albatross and hang it around their necks?
I'll post more rumors here in this blog as they come to me in the next week...