tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8223497504999189608.post8227486245597536740..comments2023-07-20T05:18:17.630-07:00Comments on Mormon Disclosures: Corrupt Then, Corrupt NowDavid Thttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09357179418131851128noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8223497504999189608.post-72159019947932487442016-08-18T13:14:07.684-07:002016-08-18T13:14:07.684-07:00Yesterday's answers have nothing to do with to...Yesterday's answers have nothing to do with today's questionsDave Mustainenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8223497504999189608.post-21879840420023759792016-06-14T02:48:58.943-07:002016-06-14T02:48:58.943-07:00Apparently there were women who wanted to be seale...Apparently there were women who wanted to be sealed to Joseph Smith in the eternal sense, but not to live as man and wife. For anyone to suggest that he engaged in adultery is simply wrong. These were by and large descendants of the Puritans, and they would have abandoned Joseph quickly if he were involved in adultery. In addition, the average life span of a woman at that time on the American frontier was in their thirties and marriage at the age of a teenager was common and legal. Even today, there are states that legally allow teens to marry at fourteen. The author of this article plays his hand when he refers to Almighty God as "god"... typical of atheists.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8223497504999189608.post-27948120640287745392015-10-15T05:23:54.698-07:002015-10-15T05:23:54.698-07:00Mormons are whackjobs. Plain and simple. They hide...Mormons are whackjobs. Plain and simple. They hide behind this "spirit feeling" and fairly tales that are just modern day nursery rhymes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8223497504999189608.post-37725226889533665472015-01-20T15:08:07.915-08:002015-01-20T15:08:07.915-08:00You're attitude towards anyone questioning the...You're attitude towards anyone questioning the church puts you in a much deeper darker cavern of personal failures.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8223497504999189608.post-78930889777906657642014-12-29T02:29:36.244-08:002014-12-29T02:29:36.244-08:00reason and fact was in full display when it seemed...reason and fact was in full display when it seemed reasonable to kill 6 million jews... and that's a fact<br><br>"trust not in the wrm of flesh"<br><br>the lord knows the real truth and the truth is, my friend, you have apostatized from the truthAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8223497504999189608.post-64353482019089974282014-12-29T02:27:06.473-08:002014-12-29T02:27:06.473-08:00you have taken the road to personal apostasy and b...you have taken the road to personal apostasy and by doing so have placed yourself under the control of evil... that is why you are now spiritually myopic, david<br><br>most long term members have witnessed this process repeatedly as people leave the church, so it's nothing new<br><br>instead of focusing on the supposed failures of joseph smith, you need to wake up and focus on your own<br><br>because you have many, my friend...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8223497504999189608.post-28987702857788142212014-11-30T10:06:57.182-08:002014-11-30T10:06:57.182-08:00You really should be ashamed of your insensitivity...You really should be ashamed of your insensitivity and ignorance at even implying that AngelC thinks everyone has the same experience!<br><br>As I stated in my earlier comment to AngelC, yes, of course sexual abuse happens everywhere, but you have indeed missed the point. The problem in your church is that your leaders justify it. It can never be justified. Yes, as you say there is no excuse for it, yet you happily accept the excuses of your prophets so that you can feel faithful and righteous. Seriously disgusting attitude.esjayeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15293479840064241452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8223497504999189608.post-1741237175452316852014-10-29T08:45:15.652-07:002014-10-29T08:45:15.652-07:00Anonymous, Please see David's post, "A Ch...Anonymous, Please see David's post, "A Challenge to Neil Andersen." Anonymous, you are missing the point. Not talking about the problem doesn't solve it. The ideas and policies that this detrimental behavior hatched, lives on in pervasive ways in the church. The extreme modesty and asexual behavior, especially in girls of the church, is one example.Cindinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8223497504999189608.post-68992705977607642962014-10-28T19:01:20.220-07:002014-10-28T19:01:20.220-07:00The Mormon church has yet to disavow Joseph Smith ...The Mormon church has yet to disavow Joseph Smith for pedophilia and condemn the successive prophets for their underaged teen marriages. You say "This church does not promote promiscuous sex at all." Yet they excuse and praise the men called prophets that practiced it. Hollow words.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8223497504999189608.post-89848528935022575412014-10-28T18:57:33.348-07:002014-10-28T18:57:33.348-07:00So being against pedophilia means you rudely have ...So being against pedophilia means you rudely have an "ax to grind"? Does that mean that pro Mormons are sporting a big ole wooden ax handle for underage sex?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8223497504999189608.post-37726491141558271592014-10-28T18:52:18.148-07:002014-10-28T18:52:18.148-07:00Angel C.,I'm sorry you had a bad experience wi...Angel C.,<br><br>I'm sorry you had a bad experience with a bishop and your parents. However, that does NOT mean that happens everywhere with everyone. This kind of crap happens in all religions, and everywhere. There is no excuse for it, and it would be ideal if this never happened to anyone. <br><br>In regards to addressing the issue, I have addressed it, just not to the suggestion that people have an ax to grind, satisfaction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8223497504999189608.post-56805303428148633982014-10-28T14:44:50.486-07:002014-10-28T14:44:50.486-07:00I grew up in your 'religion' and was a tee...I grew up in your 'religion' and was a teenage girl in it, so I am fully qualified to say what it does to a girl's mind, soul, and self-esteem. I was raped at age 7 by a teenager twice my age, and my parents took me to the bishop, where I was interrogated in order to find out what I 'had done to cause it'. THAT is the kind of twisted thinking that takes place in the Mormon church -- and then they twist it by blaming the victims, just as the church has done in the recent essay (exonerating Joseph). Continue to delude yourself, but I would never put any girl's life, health (mental or physical), or anything else in the hands of this harmful, lying, deceptive, insidious 'religion'. But I love how you chose to attack ME rather than actually addressing the problem... logical fallacies are also woven into the teachings of the church, and members spew them out with nearly every breath.AngelCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8223497504999189608.post-54629640297034530612014-10-28T14:12:52.929-07:002014-10-28T14:12:52.929-07:00Lol, Angel C.,My daughter converted at the same ti...Lol, Angel C.,<br><br>My daughter converted at the same time I did to this religion. She was fourteen at that time. I find your comment hilarious. This church does not promote promiscuous sex at all. They don't even encourage dating unless there are several other kids present. The kids in the church come up knowing this as normal. I know that there are no guarantee's that kids will not have sex outside of marriage, but it less likely the kids in this church will have sex outside of marriage than other religions. She took part in girls activities and the dances and there was never the drama or problems she encountered in mainstream Christian churches.<br><br>Pologamy, Joseph Smiths marriages, Brigham Young etc., is not a discussion that is held anywhere in the church. So, if your twisted thoughts make you believe that somehow the church would is corrupting young minds, you are wrong. It is your thoughts that are corrupt not the church.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8223497504999189608.post-82364897755730632862014-10-28T13:24:15.687-07:002014-10-28T13:24:15.687-07:00I don't know how anyone who has a daughter cou...I don't know how anyone who has a daughter could - in good conscience - raise her in this religion where people continue to justify this kind of behavior even to this day. It gives me the creeps, and I would hope that it would give most normal people the creeps... so why can't Mormons see it??AngelCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8223497504999189608.post-20779439242093471822014-10-27T12:59:36.433-07:002014-10-27T12:59:36.433-07:00When I got the impression the LDS church was runni...When I got the impression the LDS church was running a scam I was 28. RM, honest, obeyed my leaders and the commandments, fulfilled my callings. <br>I spent two years fasting and praying, consulting with church leaders, family and friends. <br><br>At the end of two years, the sensation was stronger than ever. I didn't want to go, but my conscience demanded it. History shows the church to be a fraud, and so do the feelings you describe as 'the spirit'.Anthony Andrewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07541011046745738930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8223497504999189608.post-43355963855587545302014-10-27T11:13:54.962-07:002014-10-27T11:13:54.962-07:00Love it, "Schultzing". Thanks, Insana D...Love it, "Schultzing". Thanks, Insana D, you're clever. Good way to describe how my TBM relatives and friends just accept the new essays as nothing at all. The Church is still true, doesn't matter at all. Awful that our human brains can so deceive us, such cognitive bias and tyranny of our own egos.<br>Kevin Rexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8223497504999189608.post-68702179990600029072014-10-27T09:01:32.008-07:002014-10-27T09:01:32.008-07:00Prophets in the old testament failed at times too....Prophets in the old testament failed at times too. They were still the mouthpiece of God. Peter the apostle denied Christ, but he continued on as the great apostle. Men are weak, but God is strong. This doesn't shake our testimony!B. Thatcherhttp://thatcher.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8223497504999189608.post-68919621771055565752014-10-27T08:33:59.384-07:002014-10-27T08:33:59.384-07:00Usual response. What of the spirit that tells ove...Usual response. What of the spirit that tells over a billion Muslims that Islam is true, or the billion plus Catholics. You can't rely on feelings which is where evidence comes in. Show us some evidence of any of the claims of Mormonism and we can talk. A feeling or anecdote will get you nowhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8223497504999189608.post-44268002262982953682014-10-27T07:43:16.044-07:002014-10-27T07:43:16.044-07:00David, you can't know the truth of these thing...David, you can't know the truth of these things without praying and hearing the spirit. History can be distorted, but the spirit will show you was is truly right. You rely too much on the written record. Even the LDS record is probably incorrect. Joseph was a righteous man, no matter what their own historians say now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com